This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Your articles hit me hard again:-). Because of where my Moon is at 2 56 Scorpio conjunct Pluto at 4 36 Scorpio in the 8th house the men around my age (Im 35);tend to have their Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto In my current relationship my boyfriend has Mars/Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto. Vertex conjunct the ascendant is a frequent synastry aspect in the charts of romantic partners. I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. Thank you for this information! Chiron conjunct sun. His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. What about this aspects? Is there a positive aspect to this connection? This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. In fact, it is the opposite. There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. Lets see. Thanks! You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. It can ruin possible healthy relationships. That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. I had a very intense, psychically damaging and life changing relationship with a man whose Eros was directly conjunct my Lilith, and also more loosely conjunct my Neptune & Descendant. It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. Thank you =). Lilith-Mars Aspects in Synastry (conjunction, sextile, trine, opposition, square) Lilith-Mars aspects are all about clash of desires. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. Thank you for your words. Since Aries is ruled by Mars, there's a . It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? There`s also lot of growth and sweetness and nothing that amounts to abuse. Do you have any advice for me? The same with nessus conjunct ASC? What does that mean? Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. Good afternoon, thank you for this article Always leaving them in a fog of confusion, along with lies, victim playing and guilt trips. What if a man has Dejanira conjunct a womans Sun? A later relationship was abusive (a psychopath) His Nessus square my Sun Lilith is not dark, per se, Friend. Thats like saying everyone with their own natal mars square pluto aspect makes them destined to be molested. Ami is an insightful astrology. Telling people that something will happen to them because of an aspect is what you in particular FEEL is going to happen, but that is not the truth. You truly made my day! I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. The Nessus is usually the abuser but in this case, it was the son. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. This brings out their dark side. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. Why dont you come and put the chart up on my Forum? It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. More about Synastry (relationship Astrology) Intermediate and advanced students of Astrology might enjoy our article, SoulMate . My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. He was considered irresistible. Or can my Sun hurt the person. 4. . Thats weird. Powerful, you say? This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. You interpret things based off of your own view. However, Moon/Pluto in conjunction does not have to turn bad. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. . What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). Yes, this is all very true but the charts exist outside of time, too. Im curious about that conjunction to my crushs NN, though..do you really think it could mean something? People tell me the same thing they tell me with Nessus. It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. It is not pretty at all. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. How will these aspects play out? That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. Thanks SO much for your kind words. lol. Theyre still deeply in love and their synastry and composite charts support it. Who does whom, so to speak? His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. Do these asteroids have to be conjunct planets or square each other to be dangerous? -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. Composite: moon conjunct Neptune, Venus square Pluto, Black moon lilth conjunct Pluto square mars conjunct ceres..any explanations on this type of relationship would be very helpful!!?? Thank you Ivs. Thank you, amiann. I know somebody whose Moon conjuncts his Dejanira (30 minutes). Hi Ami, Ive been quietly enjoying your site for years now and am finally reaching out as Im intrigued by your work on nessus/deja and recently entered into a relationship with someone (not romantic) who I discovered has nessus and mars conj my nn exact. What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? What use is reams of esoteric info for real life applications. I have to always be honest. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. on Dejanira and Nessus. If I had read this as a 14-16 year old, I wouldve been waiting everyday for my mother to start emotionally, mentally, or physically abusing me, and it would have put me in a constant state of fear because I didnt know much about astrology or how complex and fluid it is. With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. The puzzle pieces are coming together for me.. finally. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. I have not seen it fail in all of my chart work. If you know, let me know! I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. What I wanted to know first was what past lives we had together. I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. Lastly, with me having moon conjunct neptune in my natal and venus in my 12th house, does that make me similar to venus in pisces xxx I ask because I attract men with mars in pisces and men who have pisces as a descendant/7th house , Hi Ami, And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? Is this you? Did you know I had one? I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? There are no planets conjunct or square either Nessue or Dejanira in either chart, the only conjunction is her Dejanira to his Nessus. Sorry for the late reply. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. I am sorry! You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. This is a general rule, my Friend. I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. Eros represents what turns us on. Asteroids and aspects do not control people. Your email address will not be published. The wonderful thing about this aspect, especially with the conjunction is that love is brought into the lives of both, even if . Do you see what I mean. Eros conjunction sun and lucky point.. and mercury, uranus, pluto and venus in house seven, libra. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. Dejanira is the victim asteroid. I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. I agree with Sydney. Im not saying it is impossible for the aspects to play put for people, because a lot of times, you do see it come into play, but really only when ones own natal supports that factor with aspects between actual planets. I dont believe in past lives, Lo. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. Mars conj Saturn is not good. His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. I suppose you have choice on whether to act on it. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Ami, hello. I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. I've never had a more natural and effortless sexual connection to someone in my life, and it blinded me to a lot of things. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. A conjunction is the strongest, but most aspects indicate some type of marriage. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. If you see Moon oppose or square Pluto, dont play with the person. With the Lilith conjunct sun, the Sun person is seduced by the other Lilith person. Youll always want to look at the chart as a whole, read everything as a metaphors, and use your intuition. I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. Or can both apply? His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. I have seen it in a few people, only. Thanks for your posts Ami. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? These are too many questions for text. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? Also, there is no abuse either way. Can you relate to it or are just worried in general lol. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. Does nessus still be working as a tendency to abuse? We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. And as far as I know theres a strong correlation between nessus and psychopaths/abusers. Moon/Pluto does not have to be dark sexual but if any planetary aspect would be, it would be this. If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. We`ve known each other for a few months and generally it is a good relationship. When Eros touches the Sun, the energy of both the Sun and Eros awaken between . If your Dejanira conjuncts his ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. I dont do the Draconic. How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. They have transcended Nessus conj Dejanira, which is a new situation for me to see. That mars/nessus of his is also square his moon/pluto. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. ? Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. I do charts for the people who want them. The fear can totally destroy someone over something that they read as if its fact. Hi, Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. From the outsider's perspective, Eros and the Ascendant person will seem as if they are living the romantic experience only witnessed in films. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. I dont know too much about asteroids and wonder if the intense attraction I am feeling will fizzle as quickly as it came about or if it lasting. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. The chart shows the TRUTH. Amazingly accurate. I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. 1. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. I generally cannot stand them, and their tendency to be arogant and conceited towards anyone who doesnt think the way they do does come across as downright abusive to me. The Nessus person brings abuse to the ASC/DSC person. His moon also conjunct my IC, orb 1. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? I dont want to assume that having Nessus conj BML means Im going to be abusive in sexual relationships. Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) Great primal connection with fighting lol. I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. And when you really think about it this line of thought deserve to be abused is quite sociopathic in nature. It is not good to have a base level view on what will happen with one isolated aspect. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Also, I try to be very direct to counter the tendency in many Astrologer not to take a stand. Also, I discovered that my daughter has Dejanira conjunct her 2H Virgo Moon(3 deg. That is why it is so powerful. I have this kinky fantasy specifically for him putting a really big needle into me as part of a medical procedure but this isnt my kink or fetish. Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. If an asteroid is conjunct an angle or a planet, placed in a prominent position, or stands out because of some other reason, it can provide an additional layer of insight in chart analysis. Welcome, Britt. The issue is telling people that are in healthy relationships or people that are around a couple in a healthy relationship, that those aspects will certainly play out no matter what. Its not a square but there isnt much info out there on the conjunction. There is the potential to take things to another realm when the aspects are favorable. Eros contacts in synastry have been touted as creating attraction that cannot be denied. Hmm Thanks :), Would appreciate some insight!! I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. Not sure which one id prefer. I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. Yes, I was thinking about this. I think theres a trine or sextile to other asteroids but nothing major. To make it simple for those of you who are on the same path, Ive rounded up the top 5 placements that indicate a past life marriage. Maybe you felt this way sometimes given your Lilith-Eros contacts, but I was certainly the one more outwardly angry when the mess finally hit the fan. Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. They have a very imaginative sex life. I know this came off a bit more forward, but only because I want to make it clear that one persons feelings are not fact. It is real to be neutral. Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! It will not heal anyone to tell them that they are wrong when they say that their relationship is healthy and happy even though they have an aspect that you think is destined to be unhealthy. In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! 3 degrees is wide but this is one of the hardest aspects in the whole chart, so please be vigilant, as I know you will be! Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. would you please shed some light as you see fit? Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. My sun and deja are on his nn. I am not asking you to do mine either. I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. Next: Synastry Books Compared . They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. What does that mean? I suppose I should add that. I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol.
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