I'm sure ifyou spin it fast enough you can blend up quite aconspiracy. : Your the one who is being rediculous because you want to follow the flock: of people that have not listened CAREFULLY to ALL the EVIDENCE. Slashed throats. Rewards have been offered, and the killing was dramatized on a segment[which?] I >offer you two groups of people: people trained by the military (either >actual agents of the government or McVeigh types, as described in BLOOD >OATH), or people in organized crime. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} You sound pretty sure of that. It was also suspected among locals to be a drug frontin the two years after Goldman's death, two other Mezzaluna waiters were also murdered. Slashed throats. It was all part of a public fascination with the restaurant where Nicole ate her final meal. Planted (the strap testimony, the EDTA testimony, MacDonell's testimony). >It's been a long time since I worked as a busboy, maybe >they tip a lot better these days, but owning a Mercedes is a little >curious. Oh shit, I live in Brentwood and had never heard of this! One was killed in the same manner as> > > > >Ron Goldman and Nicole. What in the fuck are "control cuts?" Why because Ron Goldman's 3 best friends were killed or : : : murdered right after Ron's death. Makin Meaning Let's Eat we are on Milwaukie Business park free way 224 & SE freeman Way. Your sole contribution to this newsgroup is your idiotic speculation on why you just don't think it's possible for your beloved murderer to have killed two people. (b) OJ didn't deny bleeding at Rockingham. How do you explain the Bronco shoeprint with blood on it that matched Nicole? OJ's trying to kill me!" It's amazing what an emotional reaction is produced by someone simplystating a defense theory that is absolutely as good as ANY prosecutiontheory of guilt. "Do you think you'd want to eat outside this restaurant when you had 5,000 tour buses coming by each day, people craning their necks and leering out the window to see what you were eating?" They got caught by a fluke, but of course, you all dont believe the facts, you want oj to be the killer!albert walker jr, >> How did OJ's blood get at the scene and in his Bronco?>>>you have been told sixteen times, the dna came back as simpsons,>because the samples marked for those places were substituted for >blood taken from OJs drive and foyer. Mazzola had nothing to do with the frame.>and it only took a few minutes to remove and replace the bindles.>only thing was, the one doing the frame, didnt know mazzola put her>initials on the real evidence. 's innocent! When I read the wiki article at the bottom it mentions two other employees went missing - but doesn't give names. The evidence was on a tabletop, and could be handled by anyone with access. He killed the victims and later came to the scene to investigate (wearing a different pair of shoes, naturally). Blue-black fiber on the evidence? But when she left the nurturing nest that was the Browns' home, she first moved in with Robert Evans, Hollywood producer/one-time head of Paramount Pictures, who was implicated in the murder of Roy Radin ("the Cotton Club Murder"). There is: no motive and no hard evidence. By 1994, he was working at the Mezzaluna restaurant in Brentwood, on the city's Westside. AC testified on the Ip's behalf at a grand jury in 1993. 88. just keep posting and reposting it heedless of any rational discourse questioning it's credibility. So when Ron was walking home alone it was more convenient for them to start killing Nicole first and wait for him to show up. ( missing the Pepitas listed on menu)Order pizza or pasta next visit. One of the Warehouse District's notable restaurants is getting a new identity in the fall. and Nicole, Mezzaluna was the Brentwood Italian restaurant, "Guilty" signs hanging outside on the trees by Mezzaluna, Goldman left Mezzaluna to deliver the lost prescription glasses. Then there was OJ's organized crime friend, Casimir "Butch" Sucharski, who was machinegunned along with two lady friends at his Miramar, Florida, estate a week or so after OJ was behind bars. MOST UNIQUE. [3] He made an appearance on Liars, a syndicated television series. Matt Berendt Person. 1. 's innocent! I mean - restaurant business has pretty high turnover, doesn't tend to pay a lot - the likelihood is if you work there you will have a LOT of coworkers in a short period of time and you will be living in high crime neighbourhoods and leaving work late at night - already increasing the chances of being a victim of crime. Slashed throats. You just don't remember the trial. "Steve Wozniak (U.S. Robotics commercial). (where Ron Goldman was also a waiter) was shot in the head and killed. **********************************************************************************************. (609) 688-8515. mezzaluna waiters missing. Mezzaluna Trattoria was a regular dinner spot for O.J. MSLU123 wrote:> > Let me say that foot print that Lee spoke of was not the one in concrete> but in the dust. Fibers from the Bronco were found mixed with Ron Goldman's blood. And, while the restaurant may be long gone, the memory of Nicole, Goldman, and the murder trial still lives on. If this is the case, which it seems that way, then theres a much bigger issue. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Eerie, but totally unrelated to Goldman's murder. Why did blood from the Bundy drops match OJ? I Just don't understand. Exact same size and style of shoe, huh? Thats>why the initials on the bindles prepared properly by mazzola , were>no longer on the bindles that went to the labs, The real evidence>blood samples from those places were disposed of, and thats why the >initials are not there. "[2], Three months later the LAPD arrested three suspects, including the alleged getaway driver. Back on June 12, 1994, Nicole and her family enjoyed dinner at the once-hip eatery at around 6 p.m. and they had ice cream afterward, according to the CNN timeline. OJ told the police he bleeds "all the time"! If only the murders in which the killer's clothes and weapons were available for examination could be solved then our streets would be teeming with murderers like Butch Simpson. The people behind the backs of the victims controlled when the killings happened (note the control cuts on Goldman's neck), so they were kind enough to let their companions step back before the big gushers started. ?A lesser "person" would have left one little shred of evidence asa favor to people who have some desperate inner need to spout suchlame garbage. The cut Simpson received at home was relatively small (nobody noticed) and looked like a paper cut (Baden). So one more coincidence isn't so unbelievable. >> Cheers,>> A. 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DOZENS of leads and inquiries to all manner of people related to this case were followed up on and thoroughly investigated. He could have gotten a few of those out >before OJ managed to get behind him to cut his throat. Simultaneous killings would explain the drops on >top of Goldman's boot. Fuhrman (it appeared moist and sticky, there was no bloody trail to the glove). To frame O.J., of course. : The news report was that THE LA POLICE said that Nicole was probably at. Michael Nigg (April 28, 1969 September 8, 1995)[1] was an aspiring actor who worked as a waiter at a Beverly Hills restaurant. How are they all corroborating with the same lie? When I picture God I picture Barry Gibb, not Daddy Warbucks with a fuckin' slinky hanging off the side of his head. The car seen by Park to the left from the Rockingham exit was the murderer's getaway car, and it apparently disappeared by 5:30 a.m. (otherwise, it would be examined by the police, along with the Bronco and Kato's car on Ashford). >Recall, Aspen was where Nicole met Kato Kaelin and her lover Grant >Cramer. [8], On the evening of September 8, 1995, Nigg and his girlfriend Julie Long were on their way to another restaurant in his Mercedes. By the way, there may have been a number of other footprints at the scene that weren't so obvious that were either trampled by the cops moving along through the scene or just washed away at three in the afternoon. Best all type of . Jun 25, 1997, 11:00pm PDT. Football star O.J. Superman, Captain Marvel, The Incredible Hulk? Eerie. "A restaurant colleague's car was torched in 1994 in Corona Del Mar, California." there is no MOTIVE nor do we: have the BLOODY CLOTHES OR WEAPON oOR WEAPONS. One by one, the triumvirate of places that figured. Have you excludedsubstitution of evidence? [4], Authors Donald Freed and Raymond Briggs claimed in Killing Time (1996), their book about the Simpson case, that an unnamed source told them that while Nigg had lived in Colorado, he was known to law enforcement there to be "involved in the narcotics culture" in Aspen (where another branch of Mezzaluna is located) and Denver. Joey "the Ip" Ippolito had been the biggest Hollywood cocaine distributor before he went to jail prior to the murders (although he was on the lam after escaping from a roadside workteam before the murders). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. By subscribing to this BDG newsletter, you agree to our. Stop in today to experience our award-winning cuisine. A neighbor who lived nearby on Gorham Avenue in Brentwood said Goldman was struggling to make the rent until he got a new job this year as a waiter at Mezzaluna, an upscale restaurant. There were no footprints after 3pm, June 13th. Thats>>why the initials on the bindles prepared properly by mazzola , were>>no longer on the bindles that went to the labs, The real evidence>>blood samples from those places were disposed of, and thats why the >>initials are not there. **--------------------------------------------------------------------*. I last saw him at a house party of his ex-girlfriend. That was in September 1995, so it >wasn't Simpson on that one. Press J to jump to the feed. Save. There may have been a couple of hoop snakesand a giant flying cat nosing around, too. from my restaurant experience they were all on coke and some ran into trouble, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Michael_Nigg. Mezzaluna. He was shot and killed during an apparent robbery attempt in Hollywood. OJ Simpson's defense tried to connect the murders of Nigg, Simpson/Goldman, and Brett Cantor to a single killer, but there's not much evidence (if any) to suggest they're right. Simpson later decided to cover for Arnelle and her "date" (whom she never named). All the while proving more and more indubitably that you have no concept of what the hell you're talking about, Lucy. Slick that thing back get some moose; some Tennex. Were they found? 10. MEZZALUNA CONNECTION TO RON GOLDMAN'S FRIENDS DEATHS! Maybe it was his girlfriend's. Why because Ron Goldman's 3 best friends were killed or> > >murdered right after Ron's death. : arde@idt.net wrote:: : Scott Matteson wrote:: : --snip--: : > Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they attack Nicole: : > first? Simpson's ex-husband, former football star O. J. Simpson, had been charged with the murders, and his highly publicized trial had reached closing arguments. Many working at Mezzaluna were involved with the Mafia and/or the drug trade. 6. He has been described as the maitre 'd at the Mezzaluna, and also "Director of Operations". > > >> > >11/25/96 AT 10:20 pm ON CHNL 13 UPN LOS ANGELES> > >> > >The news report was that THE LA POLICE said that Nicole was probably> > at> > >the wrong place at the> > >wrong time. Killing of Michael Nigg. Until then, stay safely in your pro-murderer dream world and don't let that sunlight of reality in to blind you if you can help it, Lucy.Don't talk to me about "EVIDENCE" backing up your fantasies because there is none. The Bundy blood swatches were not booked into evidence until four days after the murders, and Mazzola's initials were later found to be missing on the evidence bindles for the blood from Bundy, even though she initialed everything else she processed. The connection is that they all worked at Mezzaluna. [3], The Los Angeles County District Attorney's office prosecuted Simpson for the killings of Goldman and Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, based on the theory that Simpson, who had a history of domestic violence with her, had acted in a fit of rage upon realizing that she was not going to return to him. [citation needed] Many working at Mezzaluna were involved with the Mafia and/or the drug trade. He said a photograph could have been taken at an>angle and they would have gotten a clear shot of it. He was shot and killed during an apparent robbery attempt in Hollywood. Nobody asked Kato if the A/C was on! He was shot and killed during an apparent robbery attempt in Hollywood. Also itwas intimated the person walked out along the bushes by the walk. I think the saddest thing about the OJ criminal investigation is theydidn't go outside the scope of OJ and Nichol. ;-). Many working at Mezzaluna were involved with the Mafia and/or the drug trade. When all this was happening in front of him, why wasn't he shouting "OJ's trying to kill me! (c) The Real Killer(s) used or broke into OJ's Bronco after he bled there, and that's when Simpson's blood got on the Rockignham glove. (a) A few other people also wear size 12. He said a photograph could have been taken at an> angle and they would have gotten a clear shot of it. Those killers would also be out of the immediate >flow of blood. >: Scott Matteson wrote:>: --snip-->: > Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they attack Nicole>: > first? >On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:12:39 -0500, al walker >wrote: >>> How did OJ's blood get at the scene and in his Bronco?>>>>, >>you have been told sixteen times, the dna came back as simpsons,>>because the samples marked for those places were substituted for >>blood taken from OJs drive and foyer. OJ even told the detectives>that those drops were his blood, so the samples marked from the>bronco and the five drops next to bloody footprints, were changed>to the blood that was collected from OJs house and drive. (b) It is not unreasonable to think that the evidence gloves are not OJ's (they didn't fit, and MacDonell's glove shrinkage experiment suggests that they wouldn't shrink significantly) AND OJ just happened to lose, throw away, give away, or otherwise get rid of the gloves he wore in Winter of 1994 AND nobody but him could confirm that. That was in September 1995, so it wasn't Simpson on that one. ;-) Which I doubt strenuously. (Can you say the departed Mark furhman was proabaly a mole for the mob and used oj as a scapegoat). I last saw him at a house party of his ex-girlfriend. Chose the house made wild mushroom Arancini appetizer. But that's not exactly surprising, since Mezzaluna was also known to be one of the hubs for buying drugs in Brentwood. Slashed throats. That was in. Judge Ito barred this admission of testimony. Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they attack Nicole first? It's so easy to spout off, when you're a Pro-J who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. 4 others have disappeared or> > >vanished. Why? Also, I think Ron: Goldmans father know something about this and refuses to face facts. 4 others have disappeared or : vanished. Good luck. You just don't remember the trial. The Mezzaluna Trattoria, formerly located at 11750 San Vicente Boulevard, was involved in one of Los Angeles' most notorious murders: the O. J. Simpson murder case. I'm familiar with every single piece of evidence connected with this case, not to mention lots of rumor and speculation. And the black gloves weren't found either, while OJ had no apparent reason to get rid of them. The Brentwood eatery where Ronald Goldman was a waiter and Nicole Brown Simpson had her final meal was not open for dinner on Wednesday.An answering machine message said the restaurant would be serving at 5 p.m., but neighbors said the business has been closed since last week. Simpson: Made in America. SorryI dont think OJ did it. 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