I also posted a Youtube of BC at Liberty University at last yrs graduation ceremony. They did not need a transformation gospel to know right and wrong and to choose to do good things. Was it a dragon or a serpent? I simply will not limit orthodoxy to 20th century American evangelical viewsand a niche of American evangelicalism at that. Maybe thats a byproduct of not letting women hold leadership positions. True spirituality is to be able to live with unanswered questions, dear Lorenzo. Lots of things. MLD, nothing in your 708 says that the 1000 years of Revelation, are figurative. It never is. Will they be allowed? Returning to a CC isnt returning to folly unless you know its folly. God bless you Pastor Bob, Diane and your children. According to Christianity Today, he'd been fired twice before for sexual misconduct, including once after getting caught having sex on church grounds, but kept getting his job back. Show me one person who has not or does not. Hugh, so what you are saying is that when Jesus said, this IS my body what he really meant was, this is NOT my body., Hey MLD, go cut off your right hand and pluck your eye out, When the symbolism is obvious or the context tells you that theres a deeper or allegorical truth thats being conveyed or the scripture is clarified by other scriptures as I showed you from John 6, then the passage is clarified, but of course if youre a Luther follower you wont accept that, since Luther was a catholic monk, and didnt move away completely from the Catholic Church, and held on to some of their traditions i.e., child baptism, and now the Lords supper, that instead of transubstantiation it became consubstantiation or sacramental union, so Luther made a start but unfortunately didnt go far enough which is where you are MLD. If these Calvanistic preterists would have been around at the time when Jesus ascended into heaven, as the disciples looked up, and the angels said, why do you stand here oh men of Galillee, for in the same way you saw him ascend, he will also descend! they would probably have started arguing with the angel, no he cant come back again corporeally, it would have to be spiritually, because its something that our little tiny minds cant understand, we have to reinterpret what you angels are saying, it must mean a spiritual return, dont you hear them saying, it must mean a spiritual mark on the forehead, it must mean a symbolic 1000 years, it must mean a symbolic 7 years. and on and on they go, they remind me of the Sadducees, who denied the miraculous, well the Preterists have nothing to look forward to as we live in exciting times and see prophecies unfolding before our eyes, they are the nay saying Sadducees of our time, and they want to be included within the pale of orthodoxy, as they follow doctrines that deny the power of God and negate the promises of his soon return! "It was attractive on both sides, for the Christians who hadn't really gotten into the drug culture but were younger and wanted something new and for the people who had come through '60s free love and drugs and needed some stability.". We are all sinners, we are taught to forgive, and I forgive you. Mary! Willingness to do whatever the board and congregation require is step four. "We need to stop him. Careful with that pride sir:). 2Cor. I have always been amazed I wouldnt know how to tell a dirty joke or swear in front of a strange woman. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. Any ideas? You know these guys are sinners and men and not Jesus, just like the rest of usyet you allow your Church System to put them on a pedestal and give them all the Power at a particular CC franchise by designits a CC distinctive. You chose to join in I did not initiate the conversation. God doesnt care how much money a person has. Bob Coy had a long run. Thankfully, this isnt my first rodeo. Im not amill, but that was a ludicrous statement. Hugh if you are going to MOCK at least read the Bible before you mock people who do actually read it. I have to agree. Diane Downs children: Where are Christie and Stephen now? Name one of these men you refer to, the men Im asking on this thread cant and wont answer the question, if theyve ever viewed pornography or thought of someone else while theyre with their wives, that should tell you something, and the women Ive been with enjoyed our intimacy as much as I did, we enriched each other and learned from each other and brought each other boundless pleasure, so I dont know what youre talking about, discarded women and wrecked lives? Did Diane Coy get remarried? - AnswersAll - answer-all.com I know the poster meant well, but this seems to be the kind of pastor worship that causes these problems in the first place, and lets pastors feel invincible for years of sin. I guess Im the rookie of the bunch since this blogging stuff is my first round ever participating in such, but I have to say Im amazed and taken aback by the acidic, sarcastic, jabbing, slandering; lets say it absolute hateful jabs at one another ( just do a speed read at 476 thru 1!). You do not know amillennialism from duck squat. Hugh, With MLD leading the way with his self righteous smug attitude!. There is another one in Daniel 3 He ordered the furnace heated seven times more than it was usually heated. Now according to your view of numbers in Daniel, they would need to check the temperature with their thermometer and raise the thermostat from 400 degrees to 2,800 degrees. OK, so now that is past, the claim is the church should have been told first. To "avoid substantial injury" to Coy's former employer Calvary Chapel according to the court file. In 1988, Coddington founded Boyd's Wheels, Inc. to manufacture and market his custom billet wheels. Way to take it out pf context monk. God sees everything. Yes, I had to come clean and it was a struggle. There are many Christian men who would not trade their happy monogamous marriages for the most beautiful women in the world. May we be in prayer for him, lest we be found with that same measurement being measured back unto us. I didnt attend the church Coy pastored or hear Coys doctrinal messages, but I can tell you this, if his doctrine was sound and according to the Scriptures then it will produce sound fruit! By sheer volume in the epistles, doctrine is brought up more than moral issues. Truth and reality may arise for all involved. Its actually a struggle for you to keep your commitment to your wife? None of us can understand how that kind of money can insulate us from anything we dont want to deal with. It must and does operate by the same worldly standards as any other corporation. If Coy's resignation stunned his followers, it hasn't hurt Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale much in the long run. Share. But Daddy held me down and the truck went over me, she said. You give me a link that says the MLK crime scene was unprotected that night. Will try and just observe rather than contribute. If he was a preacher of grace and not telling me what to do on the radio this might not be so hypocritical. Why? independent local journalism in Miami. people need to vent, to be angry, to feel betrayed and to weep. Punishment is for both, the guilty person, and for all the onlookers to witness the aftermath of disobedience. Is there a man here who would NOT do the same. Thats over a half million, not including his church salary, book royalties and possible speaking fees. You have to take literal and spiritualize it all. Im not accountable to you for my sin. Ill be praying for him, Diane and his kids as well as for the impact this will have on CC of Ftl. Glory(Pride) Gold-(Obtaining personal financial advancement from the ministry) Girls-(giving in to self serving sexual pleasure from Women) I think that older men with less testosterone can dodge these bullets. even a little. Now after commenting about 1st looks etc, I must confess that I have the hots for Stevie Nicks. Based on what you know about this situation, would you confirm Coys doctrine did not produce sound (healthy/whole) fruit? (My friend and I agreed to disagree about Coys handling of Scripture..or, the lack thereof, deciding it would be best to study separately rather than keeping our yearly tradition of doing a combined study.) What a piece of s.. standing in the pulpit all the while knowing he was screwing 2 other woman if not more. 2. well is that what you did? It works so it is a kind of method of delivery now. The duration of absence from leadership should be commensurate with the size of the flock he shepherded and the duration of the corruption. Another explosive comment on the other blog about Coy. Chuck Smith didnt like sharing power with the congregation which is why he started his own brand of doing church, his own denomination in essence, that consolidated the Power into the role of the Senior Pastor. If I was a new believer ( and Im not, its been 40 years) I would run fast, away from this apparent hate tank if I thought this was the body because thats what this has become- a hate tank. MLD, Acts 2 has nothing to do with Revelations description of the 1000 years. The most disturbing part about many of these posts is the disparate amount of sympathy and even defense for the sinner relative to concern verbalized for his family and the church. He died on the cross as sacrifice for our sins according to the Scriptures. Which one of these statements do you not agree with Flynn? Thank you for giving us this resource. Im not answerable to you. Who is Kassanndra Cantrell? 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. I suffered many years after leaving this church. I reacted in context of numerous other people who commented shortly before you who apparently excused Coys behavior or attacked people here for discussing the effects and ramifications of those choices. He has opportunity to confess, repent and turn back to the faith he knows so well. Plus, listen to Greg Laurie talk about the situation on Pastors Perspectiveclearly the moral failure wasnt that Coy was driving solo in the carpool lane. At communion are you consuming the actual, real, body and blood of Jesus? . Or was it because he was caught? MLD is a long time blogger here and a Lutheran NOT a Calvinist. They'd already sold their Coral Springs house about six months after he resigned; the settlement divided their substantial remaining assets including a $330,000 Hillsboro Beach condo he still owns and defined custody of their two children. Its as though the biblical gospel is not interesting or compelling enough; its as though the biblical gospel does not comport with increasingly American ideas of libertarianism, guns, stand your ground, etc. Coy, who was never charged with a crime, lay low after leaving Calvary but recently turned up at Boca Raton's Funky Biscuit, where he helps manage the club.
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